Monday, 26 October 2015

Madbean Harbinger One

This is Madbean's version of the famous Univibe pedal.
I've added a "Multi-Vibe Mod" to it.
You can find all infos on this circuit or buy one of his PCBs here:
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/projects/index.html

09/11/2016 Layout Updated! Changed the charge pump daughter board.


There's also a different but verified layout by Savvas in the Forum section.

34 comments:

  1. Rock on! Building this on PCB was daunting enough... haha

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    1. Hey Luke, what was daunting about the PCB?

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    2. Nothing really just a lot of parts, it took a while to populate. Madbean's PCBs are a breeze.

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    3. my first build was a vox tonebender my second was a red rooster my third was a madbean harbinger one.if you build this spend the extra money and get the most expensive LDRs small bear sells. I bought 8 and matched 4 testing them with a dmm picking the four closest in resistence readings .To do this use alligator clips hold them under a lamp then cover them and count to 3 or four then right down the resitence. the good ones hit 20 meg in about 5 seconds . the quicker they go to high resistence the better .the 7532 are good but the hermetically sealed improve this dramatically.Also i tried mounting the ldrs both flat and raised pointing at the bulb at a 90 degree angle.i prefered the raised and pointing at the bulb. this also makes the light shield less of a factor.Remember when biasing the bulb dimmer is better.you want almost orange or yellow not intense white light. i topped out at just the beggining of white light.

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  2. Thanks Alex . i did the forum vibe mod to my savvas layout i did the .01 for all four for the phase 90 option. I noticed that the voodoo vibe has a tremolo setting. is it possible to mod this to be a tremolo as well?

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    1. Have a look at this link http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=76157.0
      This adds the tremolo section from the Shin Ei Resly Tone to the Neo-Vibe. I tried it, didn't really sound that great, not much better than the vibrato which isn't good either so I think I'll leave it out. When adding to this Harbinger build just remember some of the component designations are different.

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    2. Ah, I've changed my mind, I'm rebuilding my build and adding the tremolo section plus a few mods I've picked up from R.G.'s notes and tested with a Madbeans PCB I had lying around doing nothing which I just finished testing, sounds mint.

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    3. So I've just finished rebuilding and added the tremolo section, sounds real good, super pleased with it! When I originally spliced it in as I mentioned above I had connected it wrong which is why it sucked. I fixed the error and now it sounds great.

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  3. Hello, could a Harbinger One built with the Madbean PCB be converted with this mod without a lot of difficulty? I very much like the mod, but am worried that the overall build will be far too complicated for me, so am wondering about getting a Madbean PCB instead. Many thanks.

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  4. Did someone already have the time to verify this one? That would be so awesome!!!

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  5. I built it and it works, so it's verified I guess. The only thing that is not working properly is the 18V board. As it is it only gives about 14V. In the schematic of the Harbinger One by Madbean you can see that there are 3 pcs 1N5817. If you follow that configuration it will give you 18V.

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    1. Thanks for verifying it!
      I've updated the daughter board on the layout.

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  6. I forgot to mention that I used the upgrade kit for Univibe from Banzai. It contains the lightbulb and four LDR.

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  7. I've just started on this one, looking forward to firing it up some day soon

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    1. Please watch the position of the LM7815: the flat metal side must point to the right ( as seen on the vero layout) so the picture as it is maybe a bit confusing. I hope you understand what I mean, and good luck with your build.

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  8. I do not think the daughterboard is correct. First of all in the madbean harbinger manual on page 9 it says to leave out D1 (D5 on this vero) when using 9V wall wart! This is also logical as you would (on this vero) connect +9V to D4 on both sides!! D5 could however be connected to pin 8 of the LT1054 (as done in the madbean roadrage) and you can leave out the jumper to the right of D5.
    Also, the 100uF from +9V to ground is missing (I know this is not the most important cap). Lastly in the Harbinger one schematic the 100nF is not on the +9V side but on the +18v (and other side to ground). This is not very important as in the roadrage the 100n is on the +9V side.

    Also, you could leave out the zener. This only protects the LT1054 for an overvoltage as the LT1054 can "only" handle 16V at input.

    More info can also be found in the Roadrage manual by Madbean.

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  9. Nailed this one straight up! Built this to run on 18v no charge pump. I used Photocell Silonex/Advanced Photonix Hi-Dark TO-5 from Small Bear, I didn't bother matching them as some suggest may be an advantage. Sounds AWESOME! I set gain trimmer at max as much lower and the lamp flash was erratic and inconsistent, max was fine. Set volume and intensity to max and speed fairly low before setting offset. I found that having speed at low-min allowed you to gauge phase depth more accurately. If you set it when it's flashing fast you might find that when you slow it down the phase depth disappears. That's how it worked for me anyway. This one's a winner, thanks for the layout and what a great support this site has!

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    1. Ah I just realised where I got the good advice from regarding LDR's and bulb biasing, thanks strassercaster for your advice above, you were right on the money.

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    2. Just saw your thank you. Thank You sir. Im working on another one im getting some unwanted chirp on my latest build its not really loud but its annoying and not acceptable I was fishing for a fix and saw your reply. Man I love univibes. With the small bear tio of the line ldrs its better than my uv1 and right there with a Mojo vibe.I did the 4 10n mod for phase but it sounds more like tremolo. I really want to figure out how to get this like a phase 90 somehow someday. Keep soldering

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    3. With my build thankfully I didn't experience any real problems apart from the volume drop and rate led which I later solved (as posted below). Yeah I love univibes too and I plan to build more. In fact, I just pulled out the Madbean's Harbinger 1 PCB I bought last year (which got put away when I found this vero layout, I prefer to build it by hand as much as possible, better learning experience) and I'll build it into a 125BB with the multi-vibe mod if I can scavenge the space for that switch, gift for my youngest son. I wanted to implement the phase 90 as you have done into this one to see if I can get that 'phase 90' phasing with a more fluid-like effect. If I do I'll let you know how it turned out for me. I am going to use some GL5549 LDR's just for comparison, if they are no good I'll have to spring for those small bear ones. I'm going to build EQD The Depths in the next few weeks as well with the GL5549's. This way I will compare the LDR's and work out whether or not it is necessary for me to just use those awesome small bear LDR's everytime and suffer the shipping cost (which is the most expensive part for me). Hope you solve that chirping problem, I can't rest until I a pedal is functioning properly. I just spent a week and a half trying to solve the infamous 'tick' that accompanies the Vox Repeat Percussion based pedals like the EQD Hummingbird and Moosapotamus Skippy which I did, squeaky clean, that Hummingbird is brilliant!

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    4. I just tried 10N Phase 90 mod but IMO it was pretty weak, didn't sound as pretty and dramatic as stock does, and sounded thin compared to my phase 90 clone, less audible signal. Not nice so I reverted back to stock caps.

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  10. I have been messing with my build and comparing it to various videos of the original unit and the reproduction and other clones. The depth and clarity in the one I built is phenomenal, better than any I've found on the net so far, I have the intensity dialled way back otherwise it can be quite intense, which is a good option to have as opposed to not enough. Good combination parts may have helped. If the photocells have anything to do with it take note of strassercaster's post above. This is my most favourite build to date.

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  11. Can anyone do the tremolo mod on this one? Or at least explain how to incorporate it?

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  12. Hey Alex, I seem to have stumbled upon an update to Madbeans Harbinger One build guide. If anyone else like me has noticed that the rate led would disappear completely somewhere after dialing the speed pot back after say 10 o'clock then this is update for you. To ensure that the rate led functions throughout the entire range of the speed pot (led disappeared as it got slower) then try replacing R55 (in the guide) which previously was a 22k resistor coming out the back of 2N5087 (Q15) to 1M resistor. I have just done this and it works for me! I was trying to figure out how to fix this when I came across the update in Madbeans guide. The update in the guide is dated 01/01/2016 but I can't tell when this fix was released to the general public, my pdf file was obtained much later than that. Now I have the new one. Built this a few months ago and it's working really well including multi-vibe mod. Added power switch to cut power completely when not in use, foot-stomp for chorus/vibrato mode. Thanks Alex for the layout man!

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  13. Pictures of my build: http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/Chance_N_Sarah/media/Pedals/Harbinger%20One_zps0mmuxm8z.jpg.html
    http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/Chance_N_Sarah/media/Pedals/Harbinger%20One%20-%20Rear_zpsgmq7fmka.jpg.html
    http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/Chance_N_Sarah/media/Pedals/Harbinger%20One%20-%20Gutshot_zpsi2ix7my9.jpg.html

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  14. If anyone is experiencing a drop in volume when switching the effect on try replacing 2 resistors as per the advice in the NeoVibe project. In this build you would replace R9 which is a 3.3K with a 3.6K. Then also replace R10 which is 1.2K with 910 ohms. I found there was a drop in volume and even if I maxed out the volume it was below unity, now I have unity gain after replacing these resistors. Even modern mode struggled to meet unity gain. Resistor references as per Harbinger One guide, in NeoVibe the 1.2K is R8, the 3.3K is the same R9.

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  15. Hi! Could you post a schematic for the Multi-vibe switch? I'm planning to build a PCB version and would like to incorporate this mod to it. P.S.: what's the 3rd mode, Resley?

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    1. Refer to this it may help, the mod details are in the back http://basicaudio.net/univibe-ForumVibe-final.pdf
      And google SHIN-EI RESLEY TONE

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  16. Hi! I built that with the charge pump vero, and couldn't get 18v. I added a jumper between the upper pins of the LT1054, as it seemed normal, from what i know from my previous builds, and now it works. Can't speak too much about the sound, as i'm waiting for more adapted LDRs, but i'm getting 18v, and it's working in a promising way. So i think the second cut from the upper side shouldn't be there. Thanks again for the site!!!

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    1. that is strange... Only the 7660s needs pins 1 and 8 connected. Are you sure that you did not get "rebranded" 7660S's instead of genuine 1054's?
      The cut really needs to be there (between pins 1 and 8) in the chargepump when using 1054's.

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    2. Maybe you are right, it could be the explanation. Cheap LT1054, so who knows? Thanks, anyway, i will have learned something!

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  17. Today I just finished modding and re-boxing my first effort. The most notable mod is adding the tremolo section as per the Shin Ei Resley Tone which I sourced from here: http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=76157.0 where a chap added it to his Neovibe, I just adapted it to this build and it works like a tremolo should. Added a power switch too, a number of tweaks to improve overall performance. Here are some pics:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/1yw5ycd4pi01efp/Univibe%20Modded%201.JPG?dl=0
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/pai5cn277nrr7zu/Univibe%20Modded%202.JPG?dl=0
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/tvbeu2ng0vtwmrb/Univibe%20Modded%20Gutshot%201.JPG?dl=0
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/jo4oibppn47vl5i/Univibe%20Modded%20Gutshot%202.JPG?dl=0

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